about boots on the ground, american tax dollars. i'm just talking about paying attention this and using the leverage of the moral authority of the united states to save lives. >> schieffer: that's happen? what would you like to see happen? >> i think the first thing that has to happen is there needs to be security in this country. right now, there is a u.n. peacekeeping force of about 17,000 soldiers that is complete feckless. they really haven't done anything. their mandate is to protect civilians. they haven't done that. they need a leadership change and a mandate change and they need to be completely reevaluated. in a larger sense, this is a country that needs security sector reform. they have no real functioning army. the army as it exists preys on the population rather than defending. the army is responsible for 40% of the rapes in the country. there is no judicial system, no functioning police system. those are the things that need to be rehabilitated to begin with so you can create a space to develop a civil society. >> schieffer: you know, you are interested in a lot more than f

's going to take both houses of congress, and everyone to realize we can't let taxes go up on working people in this country, and the bush tax cuts are tax cuts that did help our economy in the beginning. we are in the doldrums now because of the debt and the deficits that are dragging down our economy, as well as the over-regulation of small business. i think we've got to do something to do a patch now, which, clearly, on december 27, when mark warner and i go back, it is going to be a patch because in four days, we can't solve everything. >> schieffer: let me ask-- >> but i think we need to stop this fiscal cliff at a reasonable if salary level and then start working on the spending cuts. >> schieffer: about 30 seconds, senator. will there be a small deal? >> i think there's going to, unfortunately, be only a small deal. unless we get to dpowrl trillion, we're just kick the hand. we took $4.5 trillion out of the revenue stream. with the bush tax cuts we're only talking about putting a third of that back in. at the same time we doubled defense spend, created homeland security, and cr

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